ksircar
07-23 12:11 PM
I need some help with my daughter�s EAD and AP renewal (e-filing) applications.
Here are the details. She came to US on H4 (I am the primary applicant, on H1B). As she was going to age-out in July 2007, she was transferred to F1 in April 2007. Fortunately, she was able to file I-485 in June, 2007 and got her EAD and AP. In 2008 she went abroad and came back to US using AP.
For I-765 EAD renewal (e-filing) what should be her response to following questions?
1. Manner of entry to US (visitor, student etc.)
2. Current Immigration Status (visitor, student etc.)
3. Please select your eligibility status
Similarly, for I-131 AP renewal (e-filing) what should be her response to following questions?
1. Class of admission
2. Date of intended departure
3. Expected length of trip
Also, for AP renewal does she need to write a letter to USCIS? If so, can someone provide the format of the letter?
Thanks in advance.
Here are the details. She came to US on H4 (I am the primary applicant, on H1B). As she was going to age-out in July 2007, she was transferred to F1 in April 2007. Fortunately, she was able to file I-485 in June, 2007 and got her EAD and AP. In 2008 she went abroad and came back to US using AP.
For I-765 EAD renewal (e-filing) what should be her response to following questions?
1. Manner of entry to US (visitor, student etc.)
2. Current Immigration Status (visitor, student etc.)
3. Please select your eligibility status
Similarly, for I-131 AP renewal (e-filing) what should be her response to following questions?
1. Class of admission
2. Date of intended departure
3. Expected length of trip
Also, for AP renewal does she need to write a letter to USCIS? If so, can someone provide the format of the letter?
Thanks in advance.
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rameshraju11
11-25 05:54 PM
Pappu and Forum Admin,
1. I would recommend you to discuss with USCIS on EB1 Application Fraud for MNC( Consulting Service Compnaies) Managers by their Employers. This is one issue we should be more careful. Brought up this issue with USCIS and Recommend more scrutiny on these kind of applications since a lot of fraud in this area and by passing the whole process and harming every genuine applicant.
2. Remind USCIS about the quarterly spill over according to the Law
Thanks
1. I would recommend you to discuss with USCIS on EB1 Application Fraud for MNC( Consulting Service Compnaies) Managers by their Employers. This is one issue we should be more careful. Brought up this issue with USCIS and Recommend more scrutiny on these kind of applications since a lot of fraud in this area and by passing the whole process and harming every genuine applicant.
2. Remind USCIS about the quarterly spill over according to the Law
Thanks
EkAurAaya
10-11 04:30 PM
Yes Sir. Unfortunate for labor not cleared in time.
EB3 RIR March 2005.
Off topic - Didn't PERM start in March 2005?
EB3 RIR March 2005.
Off topic - Didn't PERM start in March 2005?
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desitechie
10-26 10:11 PM
I wanted to find about pre approved or pre adjudicated case, We have been hearing the same more often in the forum, so out of curiosity i opened a Service Request.
I kind of have a good relation ship with the former employer, worked with them for 4 years. I just called my company HR and he said he does not know my name is on withdrawn list but he will check the list and let me know tomorrow.
Take an infopass appt ASAP.
The officer in the local USCIS office will be able to give more details about your case.
I kind of have a good relation ship with the former employer, worked with them for 4 years. I just called my company HR and he said he does not know my name is on withdrawn list but he will check the list and let me know tomorrow.
Take an infopass appt ASAP.
The officer in the local USCIS office will be able to give more details about your case.
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gc_peshwa
08-20 01:04 PM
I can give you my example. 10 years in the US and got greened yesterday. Background -
B. Tech. from IIT - 1999. Always believed in hard work and dedication.
2000/2001 - Came to the US
2003 - Filed labor - RIR - EB3
2004 - job loss
2004 - Joined so called fortune 500 company with 15000 + employees and presence in 50 countries. They promised but never filed GC.
2005 - Filed Canada PR.
2005 - Quit and joined Desi company. Started GC process on day-1.
2005- Filed under Perm EB-3 (lawyer screwed). Got approved in 3 months.
2006 - Filed I-140 got approved in 3 weeks.
2007 - July Fiasco and filed I-485. Got AP, EAD. Wife started to work.
2008 - EB-3 sucked so talked to employer to file in EB-2. Desi company did not care as long as I paid for it.
2009 - Filed labor, got approved in 6 months.
2009 - Filed EB2 I-140 and requested to re-capture the PD of first labor.
2009 - I-140 approved, same day saw an LUD on pending I-485. Also, approved I-140 came with A# and EB-3 labor PD.
2009 - Bought a home.
2010 - July, dates became current.
Opened SR, got a response that my case is still in EB3. NSC sucks.
Asked lawyer to send letter to USCIS. He did, nothing happened.
Contacted senator and they opened up a congressional request with USCIS.
Within 2 days, USCIS issued RFE about incomplete medical. It was total BS.
Contacted doctor and got chest X-Ray and replied RFE.
Took several Inforpass appointments.
EAD expired, did everything but could not get renewed on time.
Did not tell anything to HR about expired EAD, both kept mum and kept working.
Had fights at DMV to get DL extended.
Aug-17th, GC got approved.
Is this all worth it? I do not know. Only reason I joined desi company with 2 employees is that desi company was ready to file GC on day-1. I have seen so called Fortune-xx companies. They lied to me.
Overall - I am a happy person. Would continue with Desi employer for some more time.
Now that we have GC, I would like to -
1. Spend more time with family and not worry about LIN-XXXX numbers.
2. Think about doing MBA.
3. Move to a warmer place like CA.
Good Luck. I would suggest - Talk to your employer and explain your situation. You have nothing to lose.
Kumar1
Tremendous story of grit and determination I must say....In fact every one of the EB immigrants story can become a storyline for a great movie :-)
B. Tech. from IIT - 1999. Always believed in hard work and dedication.
2000/2001 - Came to the US
2003 - Filed labor - RIR - EB3
2004 - job loss
2004 - Joined so called fortune 500 company with 15000 + employees and presence in 50 countries. They promised but never filed GC.
2005 - Filed Canada PR.
2005 - Quit and joined Desi company. Started GC process on day-1.
2005- Filed under Perm EB-3 (lawyer screwed). Got approved in 3 months.
2006 - Filed I-140 got approved in 3 weeks.
2007 - July Fiasco and filed I-485. Got AP, EAD. Wife started to work.
2008 - EB-3 sucked so talked to employer to file in EB-2. Desi company did not care as long as I paid for it.
2009 - Filed labor, got approved in 6 months.
2009 - Filed EB2 I-140 and requested to re-capture the PD of first labor.
2009 - I-140 approved, same day saw an LUD on pending I-485. Also, approved I-140 came with A# and EB-3 labor PD.
2009 - Bought a home.
2010 - July, dates became current.
Opened SR, got a response that my case is still in EB3. NSC sucks.
Asked lawyer to send letter to USCIS. He did, nothing happened.
Contacted senator and they opened up a congressional request with USCIS.
Within 2 days, USCIS issued RFE about incomplete medical. It was total BS.
Contacted doctor and got chest X-Ray and replied RFE.
Took several Inforpass appointments.
EAD expired, did everything but could not get renewed on time.
Did not tell anything to HR about expired EAD, both kept mum and kept working.
Had fights at DMV to get DL extended.
Aug-17th, GC got approved.
Is this all worth it? I do not know. Only reason I joined desi company with 2 employees is that desi company was ready to file GC on day-1. I have seen so called Fortune-xx companies. They lied to me.
Overall - I am a happy person. Would continue with Desi employer for some more time.
Now that we have GC, I would like to -
1. Spend more time with family and not worry about LIN-XXXX numbers.
2. Think about doing MBA.
3. Move to a warmer place like CA.
Good Luck. I would suggest - Talk to your employer and explain your situation. You have nothing to lose.
Kumar1
Tremendous story of grit and determination I must say....In fact every one of the EB immigrants story can become a storyline for a great movie :-)
Happyday
07-02 03:45 PM
2500$- lawyer fee
700$- Doc fee
60$-Photo
100$- document print/materials
50$-Gas bill
Exictement & dissapointment I ( h4 visa)had regarding getting an EAD to work and my hubby ( BS + MBA) who cannot change his job due to H1b restrictions.. " PRICELESS"
Had our parents travel to get the affidavit done despite the heavy rains and flood back in India..$$$$???
:confused: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
700$- Doc fee
60$-Photo
100$- document print/materials
50$-Gas bill
Exictement & dissapointment I ( h4 visa)had regarding getting an EAD to work and my hubby ( BS + MBA) who cannot change his job due to H1b restrictions.. " PRICELESS"
Had our parents travel to get the affidavit done despite the heavy rains and flood back in India..$$$$???
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songlan
06-24 07:00 PM
I'm EB3 ROW, my PD came current on Sept 2006
Hi SongLan,
sorry if I had missed it before: are you from China on EB3? I am wondering about when your PD became current for you to file? This is to compare with my EB2 receipt date in Aug 2005. Thanks.
Hi SongLan,
sorry if I had missed it before: are you from China on EB3? I am wondering about when your PD became current for you to file? This is to compare with my EB2 receipt date in Aug 2005. Thanks.
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desitechie
10-26 10:11 PM
I wanted to find about pre approved or pre adjudicated case, We have been hearing the same more often in the forum, so out of curiosity i opened a Service Request.
I kind of have a good relation ship with the former employer, worked with them for 4 years. I just called my company HR and he said he does not know my name is on withdrawn list but he will check the list and let me know tomorrow.
Take an infopass appt ASAP.
The officer in the local USCIS office will be able to give more details about your case.
I kind of have a good relation ship with the former employer, worked with them for 4 years. I just called my company HR and he said he does not know my name is on withdrawn list but he will check the list and let me know tomorrow.
Take an infopass appt ASAP.
The officer in the local USCIS office will be able to give more details about your case.
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mirage
05-17 09:51 AM
I am wondering everybody here is throwing stones at small consulting companies, I wonder how these people came to US surely somebody did there H1? right? People are working in big companies HP/Oracle/SAP bla bla.. but I'm sure they are not the ones who brought you guys here. Also the day they'll get their green cards each of these people are going to open similar companies and do the same thing. This is amazing how people forget their past and forget the people who brought them here...I will call you guys thankless....
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MahaBharatGC
10-08 05:12 PM
EAD Renewal Filing Date: Sept 12, 2008
current EAD expired on Sept 30, 2008
Current Status: Pending:mad:
current EAD expired on Sept 30, 2008
Current Status: Pending:mad:
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gveerab
11-03 12:24 AM
Today I was talking to IO in Texas service center, during discussion I told her that India dates might retrogress.. can you please expedite my case. For that she replied that " that's what they are doing"
I am not sure how reliable is this and on what she has in her mind.. Just wanted to share the information. Don't give me RED for this.
I am not sure how reliable is this and on what she has in her mind.. Just wanted to share the information. Don't give me RED for this.
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Drifter
04-13 03:58 PM
So after more than a month of sleepless nights, thanks to Immigration Voice looks like my I 485 application is back on track.
A recap of my situation:
Last month I got an email from USCIS-CRIS stating that my I 485 was withdrawn. After being in this country for close to 10 years and in the immigration queue for more than 7 years why would I withdraw the application ??? I did not withdraw my application !!!
It took me more than a month to find out the reason behind the withdrawal..trust me it was not easy..and guess what ....It was my Attorney who had withdrawn the application in Error. Now what ... I call USCIS multiple times.. talk to many different IO's .. some of them patient and try to help.. some extremely rude.. but all of them had only one thing to say... they cannot help!!..... I get an Info Pass... no help there either.. I set up an emergency meeting with my attorney (one of the large Immigration Law Firms) .. nothing...they accept their mistake tell me that they will do all they can .. but no assurance that they will reinstate the case .. limited forward movement.... things look gloomy and bleak..no one can help me.
Then I called Immigration Voice on the number that is listed on the site and left a voice mail. Promptly got a call back I spoke to a Core member who understood the gravity and urgency of the situation and swiflty moved forward and got in touch with their contacts in the government. The Core member also put me in a conference call with the person who was going to look into my case, I was so relieved that I could explain the situation first hand.
I got a call today and I was told that after evaluating my case my file has been reopened and they have mailed an offical notice regarding the same and I should get it in a few days. *Fingers crossed until I get this notice in hand ;)*
The IV core was extremely sensitive to my situation and were very responsive and extremly helpful. I cant thank Immigration Voice enough for helping me resolve this issue in a quick manner.
I have registered to be a recurring contributing member and I intend to be an active member of this group.
My lessons from this crazy experience are:
- Never trust your attorney, always ask for a copy of any letter/document they send to USCIS on your behalf
- There is no organization besides IV out there that is looking out for the interests of the Immigrant Community.
- We need to strengthen IV in all ways we can, we need to be active.
- And as so many members have already said "We are IV." If we want things to be better "WE" need to do something about it.
I urge members who are still contemplating becoming active members to evaluate their options and to become active and contributing members of IV.
- Peace
ps:
Another point I would like to add is that no other organization has the kind of reach and the credibility with USCIS as IV has as far as representing the true interests of the Immigrant Community goes. IV is a huge asset we have and we should work towards strenthening it.
A recap of my situation:
Last month I got an email from USCIS-CRIS stating that my I 485 was withdrawn. After being in this country for close to 10 years and in the immigration queue for more than 7 years why would I withdraw the application ??? I did not withdraw my application !!!
It took me more than a month to find out the reason behind the withdrawal..trust me it was not easy..and guess what ....It was my Attorney who had withdrawn the application in Error. Now what ... I call USCIS multiple times.. talk to many different IO's .. some of them patient and try to help.. some extremely rude.. but all of them had only one thing to say... they cannot help!!..... I get an Info Pass... no help there either.. I set up an emergency meeting with my attorney (one of the large Immigration Law Firms) .. nothing...they accept their mistake tell me that they will do all they can .. but no assurance that they will reinstate the case .. limited forward movement.... things look gloomy and bleak..no one can help me.
Then I called Immigration Voice on the number that is listed on the site and left a voice mail. Promptly got a call back I spoke to a Core member who understood the gravity and urgency of the situation and swiflty moved forward and got in touch with their contacts in the government. The Core member also put me in a conference call with the person who was going to look into my case, I was so relieved that I could explain the situation first hand.
I got a call today and I was told that after evaluating my case my file has been reopened and they have mailed an offical notice regarding the same and I should get it in a few days. *Fingers crossed until I get this notice in hand ;)*
The IV core was extremely sensitive to my situation and were very responsive and extremly helpful. I cant thank Immigration Voice enough for helping me resolve this issue in a quick manner.
I have registered to be a recurring contributing member and I intend to be an active member of this group.
My lessons from this crazy experience are:
- Never trust your attorney, always ask for a copy of any letter/document they send to USCIS on your behalf
- There is no organization besides IV out there that is looking out for the interests of the Immigrant Community.
- We need to strengthen IV in all ways we can, we need to be active.
- And as so many members have already said "We are IV." If we want things to be better "WE" need to do something about it.
I urge members who are still contemplating becoming active members to evaluate their options and to become active and contributing members of IV.
- Peace
ps:
Another point I would like to add is that no other organization has the kind of reach and the credibility with USCIS as IV has as far as representing the true interests of the Immigrant Community goes. IV is a huge asset we have and we should work towards strenthening it.
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leoindiano
05-30 05:21 PM
done.
Full text here..
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-1085
Full text here..
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s111-1085
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amsgc
05-15 12:40 PM
NH123:
1. Go to the home page
2. Click on the Forums tab in the menu on the left
3. Select the appropriate Section (Non Immigrant visas in your case)
4. Now click at the forum tools (top right corner). You will see an option to post a new thread in the drop down menu.
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I am asking this question in this thread as i dont know how to start new thread.
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1. Go to the home page
2. Click on the Forums tab in the menu on the left
3. Select the appropriate Section (Non Immigrant visas in your case)
4. Now click at the forum tools (top right corner). You will see an option to post a new thread in the drop down menu.
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I am asking this question in this thread as i dont know how to start new thread.
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01-03 07:10 PM
polygamy is not recognised under US immigration laws!
It's illegal to marry more than 1 person here..
It's illegal to marry more than 1 person here..
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pappu
11-25 03:46 PM
Immigration Voice is releasing the analysis of the information for the community. You can view the report at
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=36
We are putting together a list of recommendations about this data for our next meeting with USCIS. If you have suggestions, do post on the thread. We would also be updating this report on regular basis as the data is updated on USCIS site and numbers change due to approvals/pre-adjudication/field office data/ CP and spillovers. The visa bulletin movements will also be compared against the report and checked with USCIS and DOS.
Team IV
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=97&Itemid=36
We are putting together a list of recommendations about this data for our next meeting with USCIS. If you have suggestions, do post on the thread. We would also be updating this report on regular basis as the data is updated on USCIS site and numbers change due to approvals/pre-adjudication/field office data/ CP and spillovers. The visa bulletin movements will also be compared against the report and checked with USCIS and DOS.
Team IV
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seetheavatar
12-21 12:23 PM
Yes all the above/below said happened to a foreign citizen(you) not to their own citizens when they apply for passport renewal.
But indian consulates show their skills to their own people.No other consulate/government offices in the world treats their own citizen in similar manner.
The only time I have had to deal with the Houston Consulate (or any Indian Consualate in the US) was last year when I needed a new/renewed passport. Sent it by mail and received it back in 1 week. I really can't complain since it's the best experience I have had with any consulate.
I applied for a UK visa, and they stuck someone else's visa in my passport. To call them, there's only a paid line for 99c a minute, even if it's their fault. And I was put on hold for 15 mins.
Applied for a Canadian visa, 3 mnths in advance of my trip. When I asked after 3 weeks, they told me pretty rudely that of I enquire about the status, it'll take even longer to process. (This is a tactic I would love to use with my boss whenever he asks about the status of things I'm working on) :) Finally processed it in 2.5 months. This was a simple single entry for 4 days.
Applied for a schengen visa(Germany), they took 3 weeks to process a simple business visa. Sent back my documents saying that I didn't have coverage for repatriation of corpse should I die in Europe, even though my policy clearly had it and this was verified when I presented the documents in person at the consulate. Schengen countries demand that you apply in person, because they want to make sure you have the face for going to Europe.
I have a Dutch friend whose Indian wife took 3 mnths to get a visitor visa. This is because he complained to the Dutch foreign ministry when her visa wasn't done in 3 weeks. He was outraged that the wife of a Dutch citizen should be treated by his govt. like that. Oh well, they showed him.
So given all this, I would assume that all embassies/consulates are inefficient, simply because they are government workers who are not answerable to anyone and can't get fired. And they work in a monopoly.
Of course, we like to think Indian babus are either stupid, lazy, corrupt or a combination of the above because it's a mindset we have. But looking at how USCIS and the embassies above operate, I think Indians are pretty much on par with everyone else.
But indian consulates show their skills to their own people.No other consulate/government offices in the world treats their own citizen in similar manner.
The only time I have had to deal with the Houston Consulate (or any Indian Consualate in the US) was last year when I needed a new/renewed passport. Sent it by mail and received it back in 1 week. I really can't complain since it's the best experience I have had with any consulate.
I applied for a UK visa, and they stuck someone else's visa in my passport. To call them, there's only a paid line for 99c a minute, even if it's their fault. And I was put on hold for 15 mins.
Applied for a Canadian visa, 3 mnths in advance of my trip. When I asked after 3 weeks, they told me pretty rudely that of I enquire about the status, it'll take even longer to process. (This is a tactic I would love to use with my boss whenever he asks about the status of things I'm working on) :) Finally processed it in 2.5 months. This was a simple single entry for 4 days.
Applied for a schengen visa(Germany), they took 3 weeks to process a simple business visa. Sent back my documents saying that I didn't have coverage for repatriation of corpse should I die in Europe, even though my policy clearly had it and this was verified when I presented the documents in person at the consulate. Schengen countries demand that you apply in person, because they want to make sure you have the face for going to Europe.
I have a Dutch friend whose Indian wife took 3 mnths to get a visitor visa. This is because he complained to the Dutch foreign ministry when her visa wasn't done in 3 weeks. He was outraged that the wife of a Dutch citizen should be treated by his govt. like that. Oh well, they showed him.
So given all this, I would assume that all embassies/consulates are inefficient, simply because they are government workers who are not answerable to anyone and can't get fired. And they work in a monopoly.
Of course, we like to think Indian babus are either stupid, lazy, corrupt or a combination of the above because it's a mindset we have. But looking at how USCIS and the embassies above operate, I think Indians are pretty much on par with everyone else.
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07-20 11:00 PM
Please use this thread to track your NSC EADs (e-filed). ****No Paper based filing details here****
* Please do not ask questions about your case.
* Only E-Filings should be tracked on this thread. Please use the other tracker threads.
* Provide details about your filing date, FP notice, FP, RFEs and approval dates here.
Additionally, do consider the "High Five" Campaign.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Other Trackers:
NSC EAD Paper: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20345 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20344)
TSC EAD E-File: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20346 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20346)
TSC EAD Paper: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20347 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20347)
NSC AP: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20349 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20349)
TSC AP: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20348 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20348)
* Please do not ask questions about your case.
* Only E-Filings should be tracked on this thread. Please use the other tracker threads.
* Provide details about your filing date, FP notice, FP, RFEs and approval dates here.
Additionally, do consider the "High Five" Campaign.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20183
Other Trackers:
NSC EAD Paper: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20345 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20344)
TSC EAD E-File: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20346 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20346)
TSC EAD Paper: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20347 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20347)
NSC AP: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20349 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20349)
TSC AP: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20348 (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20348)
sanju
09-09 08:59 AM
I140 should be approved or approvable at the time of filing. Yates memo is very clear on that- I-140 approval is not required in concurrent filing. Also there is no salary requirements on invoking AC 21. Again, please read Yates Memo.
Kindly see the context of the post and please read the post completely before going ballistic –
I am not talking about the requirements for concurrent filing. Yes, everybody knows that I-140 and I-485 could be filed together, hence the word “concurrent”.
However, approved I-140 is required for invoking AC-21 to change employer after 180 days of 485 receipt.
If you want to change employer without consideration to the salary, be my guest. I am simply trying to relay what I have learnt from discussions with 4 top attorneys in the country. If you have any doubt, speak to an attorney. But you are welcome to do whatever you find is best for you. I have changed employer using AC-21 and simply attempting to provide the information about practical implication/ramifications of AC-21 from my experience and knowing. As always, you are welcome to do whatever you deem fit in your case.
Kindly see the context of the post and please read the post completely before going ballistic –
I am not talking about the requirements for concurrent filing. Yes, everybody knows that I-140 and I-485 could be filed together, hence the word “concurrent”.
However, approved I-140 is required for invoking AC-21 to change employer after 180 days of 485 receipt.
If you want to change employer without consideration to the salary, be my guest. I am simply trying to relay what I have learnt from discussions with 4 top attorneys in the country. If you have any doubt, speak to an attorney. But you are welcome to do whatever you find is best for you. I have changed employer using AC-21 and simply attempting to provide the information about practical implication/ramifications of AC-21 from my experience and knowing. As always, you are welcome to do whatever you deem fit in your case.
abhijitp
10-10 03:27 PM
....I am not sure why someone is portraying Infy or Wipro as companies that go for "Easy money..." that's completely ridiculous. Agreed they are not doing lots of so called high-end R & D projects and majority of thier revenue is still from service industry. But that does not make these companies any lesser.
I am not sure how much insight you guys got into these companies, but they are doing quite a lot of good assignments. Also, the processes they got in place & the maturity they show in execution of assignments is definitely on par with any other software services company in the world.
Probably a bunch of you folks are frustrated with these companies because the billing rates are driven down & opportunites in US (for consultants) are becoming less due to these companies' offshore model - but that does not make these companies shallow as you are trying to portray.
PS: I am not an employee with either of these companies. FOr that matter, none of these offshore-based companies. But the facts are to be accepted.
I would rather stay out of this discussion... but I am in complete agreement with your point on "processes"!
So far in my experience in IT consulting in the US, I have almost never seen the same level of detail in following software development processes as I used to see when working offshore for organizations doing the same kind of business as these two companies.
I am not sure how much insight you guys got into these companies, but they are doing quite a lot of good assignments. Also, the processes they got in place & the maturity they show in execution of assignments is definitely on par with any other software services company in the world.
Probably a bunch of you folks are frustrated with these companies because the billing rates are driven down & opportunites in US (for consultants) are becoming less due to these companies' offshore model - but that does not make these companies shallow as you are trying to portray.
PS: I am not an employee with either of these companies. FOr that matter, none of these offshore-based companies. But the facts are to be accepted.
I would rather stay out of this discussion... but I am in complete agreement with your point on "processes"!
So far in my experience in IT consulting in the US, I have almost never seen the same level of detail in following software development processes as I used to see when working offshore for organizations doing the same kind of business as these two companies.