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  • zoozee
    08-28 03:49 PM
    Gdhiren:Can you please send me your email id mine is zoozee4@hotmail.com
    I am flying from San Jose to Dc for the rally.Can you please post me the threads for the hosts for accomodation in DC.



    Folks, really great. I am around DC and coordinating the Pickups/Dropoffs. Please PM me your flight details if you need to be picked up from the airport or dropped off to the airport, don't be shy, we will make every efforts to accomodate your needs. There is also a separate thread if you need accomodation (we have several hosts).

    Thank you guys for flying all the way from west coast.
    Dhiren

    PS: Waiting_4_GC, I have your flight info.





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  • sgkgops
    07-07 02:29 PM
    Wow...good publicity....

    >>http://video.msn.com/v/us/fv/msnbc/f...e-91f2915adc79

    Is it right episode? I didn't see anything relate to july bulletin. Can you sent the right padcast?





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  • longq
    12-29 10:56 AM
    I tend to agree with your interpretation that "NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE" refers to those beyond 140K. The language of law is always beautiful, isn't it?:)

    Anyhow, I still think it merits a deeper investigation and consultation with attorneys.

    No one analysed the statue of the language used in 202 5 a.

    If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5).

    The key is OR. If the the intension of the language is total demand is less than 140,000, then it would have been "If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), and (5)"

    The language used in the 202 5 a, explicitly defines each preference catagory seperatly. Also it says "the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued".

    For example the unused visas by EB1, let us assume 10,000.
    The visas avaliable in EB2 is 40,000 as per 203 b 2.

    Therfore the total visas in EB2 is 50,000.

    If the total demand is less than 50,000 in EB2 (India+Cina+ROW), the 7% quota is not applicaple.

    This is the very direct, simple interpretation of 202 5 A.

    Therefore one cannot (EB3-ROW) interpret, for their convenience. Thats why I suggest the IV to discuss with experinced attorney and make a enquiry with law makers or DOS, if required. Otherwise (if it is wrong it is a big blow to India and China). We will get only 2800 per year.





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  • apt29
    08-12 09:52 AM
    Wow dude you are impossible :D Good job though ;) Can you post your exact conversation in detail with second IO for benefit of us here.

    +1 to your avatar

    :D:D:D



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  • chanduv23
    03-26 01:58 PM
    What about H4 spouses or secondary GC applicants who are not working? How will they get DL if the DMV is asking for EVL or pay stubs?

    Hmmm EVL could be their spouse's? EVL?





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  • sameer2730
    11-06 12:13 PM
    Does anyone know when VB will be out this month?
    Sometime this month!!



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  • ronhira
    07-21 10:27 PM
    this guy doggystyle piss me off, i had other things to do and was not going to attend, but he made sure that i attend and expose incompetency of these impotent people. bottom line - donna wants to be the one to testify to the congress, she wants to be famous. others are idiots and can't see this. here is what happened - total waste of time. doddy is right, could not hear more than 5 distinct voices, they use different ids to make it appear that the whole world is anti immigrant, they even said that on the call, bunch of losers

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    donna – put in talking points for each article.
    kevin – don’t want to look artificial
    donna – yes, no copying pasting,
    don’t want to put ourself apart from other american in it . the good thing is republicans are on the message and this is what democrats don’t know how to do. democrats are very articulate, but do not stay on the message
    core point of the talking points, want to attack h1b only, that’s the core – we are fighting to apply in jobs in our own country
    remember, the business week will post link to these h1b only wanted ads
    you will not see an american who’ll be happy to see these ads
    goto Bright Future Jobs (http://www.brghtfuurejob.com)
    durbin bill will not do enough, will only prevent these h1s to come here. but after durbin bill pass, anyone can send this job. in order to apply for a job in nj one has to through pune, india. they ask new h1b to sign bond contract, and if they leave before 18 months, they will ask to pay the fee. this is bond contract which is illegal in america since long time.
    kevin – ha ha ha indentured servants
    donna – exactly, ha ha, and durbin will prevent this bond contract, if u click on h1b wanted ads
    #7 ads says no degree required
    #8 ads this is a govt. contract and the company is minority owned - the reason we attack minority owned or woman owned company is, it’s difficult to get this status and they are violating the spirit in which they got the minority status. there is a large number of unemployed h1b, the corporation made a solemn commitment to the us americans, government and to the foreign nationals – the corporations made the commitment to pay the individual and if they let them go or fire, they fly them home. what is going on is aila is recommending to companies that they essentially intimidate h1b when they let them go, making them sign a letter that they refuse to take ticket to fly back home. this is very very important for us to know and attack
    one thing that most people don’t know - the indentured comes from the bond contract – the guest workers, h1b, will be never be deported, because, under the law, theoretically, they r never suppose to become illegal. the only people who r deportable r illegals.
    some lady voice – this is not a civil and not a criminal offense
    donna – no, because it’s the fault of the cos, bcoz the company did not fly them home. and this is one issue that doesn’t get represented in the media. h1b – that doesn’t have job, most important thing to post is – attack that u don’t have job and can’t apply for job
    the exploitation which bw is writing about can only occur when these companies can bypass us – the solution to this lies – when companies are forced to hire her
    another stupid woman – yes, the it was invented here
    kevin – yes, for green card, lawyers find ways around the process
    donna – corporation is finding work around to hire american worker,

    door bell rings… that stupid woman answering door and cause disturbance for 5 minutes, opening door, dog barking, bragging to the mail man about being on a big “conference call”….

    donna - the unifying thing is – corporations are ignoring us to find legal ways to ignore us.
    stupid woman - how to answer them on the forums
    kevin – just basically reply, and reply, and we have overwhelming numbers on our side
    when u see their comments, they have high volume for 1 or 2 days, and then they r gone. we continue to post comments sometimes use different ids and make it look like we are many of us.
    donna – we r not going to win the posting game, we don’t want to win the posting game
    we are positing similar information, and this alerts the journalist and we have to filter our messages, say we have 20 votes about the bypass of the talent, 20 points about the employment discrimination, we will alert discrimination whom we will refer to these articles,
    nyt – article got 1000 posts, and passed to other online journals,
    as soon as i started, 1 generalist quoted me and then got quoted more
    so the journalist who wrote the article, and those who comes afterwards, they read the post, that is important. we want generalist to read our comments, that we cannot apply for the job, and there is employment discrimination
    kevin – you can also send reporters direct emails, i emailed moira of bw - direct emails, and that’s how we got bw article
    donna – remember we have a track. after labor day, this is going to be up for discussion, btw, don’t even replicate u’r opponents phrases or never repeat u’r opposition is saying about yourself, so don’t say that there is no qualified americans, say we have over abundance of skill talent, in other words over supply, never say shortage, because u’ll otherwise saying opposition’s message about you. doesn’t anybody… do we want to have a discussion on that.
    kevin – we do not have to be dignified in our response
    donna - there is not a human on this planet who will believe that there are “want” ads that say –americans need not apply – that will create outrage.
    buddy – can i ask a question, i click on an add, it goes to indeed, so this is pulled from rss feed
    buddy – so i have many friends on facebook, i can tell them about these ads.
    donna – exactly, so the jobs r there but we cannot apply for those jobs. we have doj is making a ground breaking case between ‘employment right and it
    silly woman – i’ve been it manager, and know many american who
    btw – u’r emotional truth will move people. these people have over qualified beyond the job we are positing, and they do not get hired, and that’s the pattern. years ago, we barely know the material, and we learned on the job, and now it’s the other way around, we know it and we are over qualified
    another stupid guy - they fake resumes, and they say on the resumes that they know about oracle rake and unix admin, but they don’t know anything
    donna - we are laying the groundwork about the washington beltway mentality, if have to make it look like that employer deliberately pst ads
    everyone here on the call has historical record, honest to god. i have a good news, we r standing up for ourself, to tell this story of bypassing the american talent, and that’s what brighfuture jobs is about. that’s what durbin bill will do for us. there are couple of people who will focus on foreign citizens. two things (1.) they will hear from us, and (2.) whether we need guest workers at all, will be taken by afl-cio will pick up. but what we will do, we have absolute unique role to play, we will explain how the culture the bypass impacts us, and the culture of exploitation impacts us. we r the only once in the country who can tell this. there is going to be a discussion in beltway about “whether”, but american worker and american it professionals
    no one said that - no foreign worker can come here – that’s not the message – it’s the bypass and exploitation.
    donna - no there will be a discussion about no foreign work can come
    don’t ever say – h1b is when a qualified american worker can not be found. we have to say that h1b law is about the bypass the american worker – the “discussion” will be about commission – anybody heard about that. the unions are setting commission whether or not we need guest workers – theoretically, and we will come up with the stories, boots on the gound, to show them the data the fuel, makes sense? they can have their tea and whatever stuff, and we will bring the bonfire.
    kevin – that nyt story about that google supposedly employee, we have to post messages there,
    we have to say that – there will not be an american and naturalized citizen, who say -that its ok to exploitation. there is deep deep discussion about who is an american. alf_cio has broken the opposition, but they r talking theoretically, and we r giving boots on the ground –
    employers r not giving us the opportunity to compete – it’s the responsibility of federal govt that we are able to compete.
    buddy – most of these jobs are it. someone in background in it can pick up even if there is new technology, but we r shut out by people with lower skills
    donna -you r wrong, u r not shut down by people with lower skills, but by corporations
    buddy – say 4 h1b workers replacing 1 american workers, they network, and team up to help each other
    donna - no, u can argue the cheap, that’s ok, but u cannot argue about losing the right to compete. americans love cheap labor, but we have to focus on americans not being able to compete, its not about low wages.
    mike – if u’r real american u cannot work for the 3rd world rates
    donna – if u’r real american, u’ll make that corporation compete for these jobs locally. if u want americans, u want to create competition amongst americans here.
    when a blackman would work for 10 cents, and white man work for $10, they would choose whiteman, they choose whiteman – because they were
    so if u want to argue about wages, that’s cool, u r telling people u’r competing for the job. but the focus has to be on the right to compete.
    this guy rajiv was replaced by h1b when he was on h1b. ha ha ha (everyone laughs)
    find an american who don’t think its ok to find the people to right to compete. we have not said this to the lawmakers. the moment we tell this to the lawmakers, they will be 100% on our side





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  • Aah_GC
    08-08 09:52 AM
    Risk is just your perception. If you feel the new job offer is worth it and will help move forward in your career, you should go for it. Make sure you read all the AC21 posts in this site (and elsewhere) and be prepared.

    Good luck!



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  • paskal
    12-20 11:18 AM
    this is good news indeed for a lot of people!





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  • vbkris77
    11-30 04:42 PM
    One important observation is that EB2 India/China shouldn't celebrate until State changes their planning style. If CIS wastes visas due to swing movement by State, EB2 I/C doesn't move so much and numbers will be wasted. So it is important that IV push state to incorporate long term planning and add the CIS processing as a lead time to calculate visa dates movement at least for post July 2007.



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  • lonedesi
    04-02 09:09 PM
    Can any of the moderators let us know how are we doing on the count? Where do we stand as of now? How many faxes have been sent and how many are in the queue to be faxed? A quick update would be appreciated.





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  • bp333
    05-30 05:32 PM
    Guys go to this website and sign up and vote yes for this bill.

    http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-s1085/show


    Just voted. Thanks for sharing the link, I will spread the word..



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  • Lasantha
    06-17 05:58 PM
    OK! I just gave you two GREEN dots! :D

    Sometimes there were some flaming but it happens. I still have a RED dot against me from Ms Hemione with whom I had an argument about illegals..





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  • nefrateedi
    08-23 08:57 AM
    [QUOTE=plassey;152466]He has just one option, get the laws changed. Not beating the dead man but folks should understand the importance of IV activities.
    Look at the state of affair of Tri State, thousands of people like these but only 25 so far signed up for DC rally. Not enough to fill even one bus WHAT A SHAME![QUOTE=plassey;152466]

    I don't think you get a sense of his problem, even though you claim you do...you are in fact beating a dead horse...I got your point regarding IV's efforts, and am not disputing that one bit, but at the same time when someone posts a valid concern/issue that they have, it doesn't hurt to have some empathy....I'm sure you wouldn't be too happy if you were in their place....



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  • wandmaker
    07-25 11:43 AM
    I know before you start blaming me for this thread, as it is of no use, I would like to point out that most of you must be experiencing the same thing. I didn't care much for Visa bulletin until it became current for EB2 two weeks back. As the time progress, I am doing all sorts of things, like checking USCIS case status, and checking everything that can possibly give me some information. I know that it is waste of time, I know it is not good for health, I know that I will get GC when time comes, but still, my mind is tricking me to think about it. I checked all these forums until 2A.M last night. I am not having enough sleep. I am waiting for a opportunity to get rid of my desi employer. I am really getting frustrated (I am not saying that I have been waiting for GC approval desperately). I just want to share my frustration and what I have been going through. I know I am in a better position than most of other people whose priority date is not even current. I wish they never dangled a carrot in front of me. I am not sure if they disappoint me next month, but I am still keeping my hopes. Hopefully, I would get over this and have enough sleep from today.

    (1) GC, (2) Career and (3) Life are three different things -

    (1) Don't expect GC to in your mail box next week or in 6 months or in 12 months.
    (2) You can not pursue your career to higher level because roles and responsibilities are tied to it, nothing can be done.
    (3) Life is in your control, do ac21 and move on with your day to day life. (1) & (2) will fall into your hands someday.





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  • hpandey
    04-24 11:40 AM
    I would say another problem is getting the H1 stamped. Ever since they got rid of getting the H1 stamped within US we have to go out of the country to get it stamped and you never know how much time it is going to take. Now due to PIMS delays some people are getting stuck for more than a month and no one can afford such long holidays .

    On top of that if you are going out of the country then there are airline tickets and stamping fee etc etc which also comes in 1000's of dollars.



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  • aadimanav
    05-14 08:58 PM
    http://lofgren.house.gov/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=1912

    Press Release
    Rep. Lofgren Introduces Bill to Retain International Talent
    Bill Would Allow Best and Brightest in STEM Fields to Stay in the United States.May 14, 2008

    Washington, D.C. � Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) recently introduced H.R.6039, which would allow masters and Ph.D. level graduates from U.S. universities in science, technology, engineering, and math to obtain green cards without waiting in long lines, if they have job offers from U.S. employers. The measure enjoys strong bipartisan support, initial co-sponsors include: Reps. Chris Cannon (R-UT), Michael Capuano (D-MA), Chris Carter (R-TX), John Conyers (D-MI), Joseph Crowley (D-NY), Tom Davis (R-VA), Anna Eshoo (D-CA), Wayne Gilchrist (R-MD), Mike Honda (D-CA), Patrick Kennedy (D-RI), Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), Jim McDermott (D-WA), George Miller (D-CA), David Reichert (R-WA), Linda Sanchez (D-CA), Loretta Sanchez (D-CA), John Shadegg (R-AZ), Adam Smith (D-WA), and Ellen Tauscher (D-CA).


    �More than 50% of the graduates from U.S. universities in masters and Ph.D. programs in science and engineering are foreign born,� noted Rep. Zoe Lofgren. �If we want our economy to continue competing in the global market, we have to retain these foreign students so they compete with us instead of against us in other countries. These men and women are the innovators of tomorrow, and we aren�t the only ones looking to retain their talents. Increasingly, employers from Europe, Australia, Canada, and even China and India, are beating U.S. employers for valuable talent. In 2000, for example, 75% of the world�s engineers were hired by U.S. employers�just six years later in 2006, that percentage dropped to 63%. This legislation will give U.S. employers another tool to recruit the world�s best and brightest.�





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  • GCwaitforever
    04-01 10:03 PM
    no. 10 and 11 today. Shall visit the senators office on Monday as well. This would the last chnace to make a difference. Go for it.





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  • mygoodluck
    08-15 02:24 PM
    Duplicate application will definitely create problems I will told today by the USCIS rep. They don't recommend it at all and neither my lawyer. He has refused to re-file or will only re-file if I take the onus/responsibility of the result.

    USCIS rep also informed me that as long as you have a tracking proof that you application was delivered, you should be able to refile after Aug17 also, in case application was not processed because it was lost or so.





    amitga
    06-24 02:30 PM
    Schumer Says Immigration Reform Will Happen - Roll Call (http://www.rollcall.com/news/36228-1.html)

    Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) maintained Wednesday that Congress will tackle comprehensive immigration reform this Congress, and perhaps even this year.

    �All of the fundamental building blocks are in place to pass comprehensive immigration reform this session and, even possibly, later this year,� Schumer, the No. 3 Democratic leader, said during a speech before the Migration Policy Institute.

    Schumer, chairman of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Refugees and Border Security, outlined key principles that must be part a reform bill, including strong enforcement of illegal immigration, an employer-based verification system and a direct path to citizenship.

    The Democratic Conference vice chairman, who will join a group of lawmakers at the White House on Thursday for a summit on immigration, underscored �the intensity for solving this problem once and for all� this year. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has similarly suggested that immigration must be tackled sooner rather than later.

    �I have no doubt that President Obama has an unyielding commitment to achieving comprehensive immigration reform,� Schumer said. �And I truly believe that his leadership will be the critical difference in getting us over the hump this time around.�

    Schumer said the last legislative attempt in the 110th Congress failed because it wasn�t strong enough in clamping down on illegal immigration. This year, he said, that issue must be a top priority.

    �I think on the part of the left, there�s an understanding that unless we convince American we�re going to be really tough ... it�s the only way to do it,� Schumer said.

    With Republican losses among immigrant voters in the last election, Schumer said the GOP has an interest in moving on a reform bill as well.

    Reid said Tuesday that immigration remains a top priority this year � just behind health care reform and climate change legislation. He said he has spoken with White House officials on the matter, and despite a packed schedule that includes appropriations bills and a Supreme Court confirmation, the Majority Leader said he has the votes and the support to take on another complex issue this year. Obama, for his part, has said he wants to get negotiations rolling on immigration but hasn�t laid out a timetable for passing a reform package.





    wellwishergc
    04-10 09:02 PM
    I agree with bharnik..

    Perhaps, we are looking at things through the same perspective that everybody is looking at. Remember that the senators and congressmen include clauses what are provided by people like us or by businesses; for instance - the wording of the amendment that Senator Borwnback brought about, should have been a combination of materials from IV and other sources. I am sure that very few congressmen/leaders know what I-485 process or EAD actually means. People like us who are affected by the GC process have these form numbers and the corresponding processes on the top of our head. I suspect this is the case with the senators/congressmen or their staff, since 'legal immigration' is just 1 topic out of the numerous topics that they have to deal with.

    So, I re-iterate that we need to work on things simultaneously. If one group is working through the congress, another group should target the agencies such as DOL, Service Centers.

    I think, it is much easier for DOL or Service centers to bring about a 'memorandum' within the legal boundaries of the existing law; to best put it, to change the interpretations.

    It is the same with the current bill under debate. It will take years before each and every aspect of the bill, once passed, is intrepreted and implemented. In the meanwhile some may get lucky by a certain interpretation, some may not. - until the final interpretation is confirmed.

    IV has the clout now to approach agencies, explain to them our argument and see if we are able to convince them for short-term reliefs. It is just a matter of trying.

    Bee:

    Thanks for the link to the summary. But therein itself lies the solution. As you can see from the summary, the EAD eligibility in all cases explained above is in cases which does not impact the GC quota. Apparently, people against whom removal process is initiated is eligible to receive an EAD!!! Also, as you mentioned in your post, the CFR is not a law, it is an interpretation of law made by the agencies and the agencies are free to change the applicability, extension, conditions of eligibility for EAD as they seem fit. The reason is because COngress never foresaw these huge wait times when they passed the INA (in fact our FAQs make that pretty clear). I think if a little bit of persuasion is applied by the right people to the right places, we may just make this work. I agree with Raj, maybe we should take this a bit farther and see what develops.

    Another compelling reason for doing this is the fact that even if the CIR were to be passed, by the time the agencies develop their regulations we are easily looking at another 2 yrs plus before we see the effects of the CIR.

    I guess I am done on this topic. It was just a thought that I felt should be put out there for discussion.