atakordie
Sep 7, 09:15 PM
Yeah, the audience he was performing to was not what I would consider his primary listenership. Plus, it isn't music and it sucks. (I know... just an opinion.) And thanks for the PG-13ness.
CalBoy
Apr 14, 10:50 PM
I understand the point you are trying to make (re: enhanced security measures] but technically those two incidents had nothing to do with the TSA since they both flew from non-USA airports - that is, the TSA didn't screen them at all.
While this is true, we can't allow that technicality to wipe the slate clean. Our security as a whole is deficient, even if the TSA on its own might not be responsible for these two particular failures. Our tax dollars are still going to the our mutual safety so we should expect more.
I guess that depends on how you define "not much trouble". We can't know the actual number, since we will never know many actually get through. But they are catching over half the weapons that their own agents try to smuggle through on test/training runs. So that counts as being "some trouble". How much "trouble" is enough? Read my post above about how much risk a "bad person" organization is willing to take on 50/50 odds. My late father made his career "gaming" situations, so I have a bit of a passing knowledge of it. I am certain that the TSA has "gamed" the odds, and the TSA believe that they have reached a reasonable balance between costing the public time, money, and indignities - and - ensuring a reasonable level of safety for the flying public. They may be wrong.... but I would bet money that, to the best of their ability, they believe they have reached a balance.
Well when a fanatic is willing to commit suicide because he believes that he'll be rewarded in heaven, 50/50 odds don't seem to be all that much of a deterrent. What's worse is that we've only achieved that with a lot of our personal dignity, time, and money. I don't think we can tolerate much more. We should be expecting more for the time, money, and humiliation we're putting ourselves (and our 6 year-old children) through.
If this is the TSA's best effort and what it believes is the best balance, I want a new TSA.
OK, then why are hijackings down? I have my working hypothesis. I cited some evidence to support it. If you don't agree, then it is up to you to state an alternative one that is supported by more than unsupported statements.
I am not saying the TSA (or in my case CATSA) is perfect or haven't mucked things up sometimes. I'm just saying that I believe that they have been mostly responsible for a dramatic drop in airline hijackings. I cited some statistics. Now it's your turn.....
Your statistics don't unequivocally prove the efficacy of the TSA though. They only show that the TSA employs a cost-benefit method to determine what measures to take.
Since you believe in the efficacy of the TSA so much, the burden is yours to make a clear and convincing case, not mine. I can provide alternative hypotheses, but I am in no way saying that these are provable at the current moment in time. I'm only saying that they are rational objections to your theory.
My hypothesis is essentially the same as Lisa's: the protection is coming from our circumstances rather than our deliberative efforts.
Terrorism is a complex thing. My bet is that as we waged wars in multiple nations, it became more advantageous for fanatics to strike where our military forces were. Without having to gain entry into the country, get past airport security (no matter what odds were), or hijack a plane, terrorists were able to kill over 4,000 Americans in Iraq and nearly 1,500 in Afghanistan. That's almost twice as many as were killed on 9/11.
If I were the leader of a group intent on killing Americans and Westerners in general, I certainly would go down that route rather than hijack planes.
ps there is no proof that it wasn't Lisa's rock. There are some very weird causal relationships in the world. Like shooting wolves causes the Aspen to die off in Wyoming. Or .... overfishing the Salmon in the Pacific changes the mix of trees along the rivers of the BC coast.....
It's pretty clear that it was not the rock. Ecosystems are constantly finding new equilibriums; killing off an herbivore's primary predator should cause a decline in vegetation. That is not surprising, nor is it difficult to prove (you can track all three populations simultaneously). There is also a causal mechanism at work that can explain the effect without the need for new assumptions (Occam's Razor).
The efficacy of the TSA and our security measures, on the other hand, are quite complex and are affected by numerous causes. Changes in travel patterns, other nations' actions, and an enemey's changing strategy all play a big role. You can't ignore all of these and pronounce our security gimmicks (and really, that's what patting down a 6 year-old is) to be so masterfully effective.
While this is true, we can't allow that technicality to wipe the slate clean. Our security as a whole is deficient, even if the TSA on its own might not be responsible for these two particular failures. Our tax dollars are still going to the our mutual safety so we should expect more.
I guess that depends on how you define "not much trouble". We can't know the actual number, since we will never know many actually get through. But they are catching over half the weapons that their own agents try to smuggle through on test/training runs. So that counts as being "some trouble". How much "trouble" is enough? Read my post above about how much risk a "bad person" organization is willing to take on 50/50 odds. My late father made his career "gaming" situations, so I have a bit of a passing knowledge of it. I am certain that the TSA has "gamed" the odds, and the TSA believe that they have reached a reasonable balance between costing the public time, money, and indignities - and - ensuring a reasonable level of safety for the flying public. They may be wrong.... but I would bet money that, to the best of their ability, they believe they have reached a balance.
Well when a fanatic is willing to commit suicide because he believes that he'll be rewarded in heaven, 50/50 odds don't seem to be all that much of a deterrent. What's worse is that we've only achieved that with a lot of our personal dignity, time, and money. I don't think we can tolerate much more. We should be expecting more for the time, money, and humiliation we're putting ourselves (and our 6 year-old children) through.
If this is the TSA's best effort and what it believes is the best balance, I want a new TSA.
OK, then why are hijackings down? I have my working hypothesis. I cited some evidence to support it. If you don't agree, then it is up to you to state an alternative one that is supported by more than unsupported statements.
I am not saying the TSA (or in my case CATSA) is perfect or haven't mucked things up sometimes. I'm just saying that I believe that they have been mostly responsible for a dramatic drop in airline hijackings. I cited some statistics. Now it's your turn.....
Your statistics don't unequivocally prove the efficacy of the TSA though. They only show that the TSA employs a cost-benefit method to determine what measures to take.
Since you believe in the efficacy of the TSA so much, the burden is yours to make a clear and convincing case, not mine. I can provide alternative hypotheses, but I am in no way saying that these are provable at the current moment in time. I'm only saying that they are rational objections to your theory.
My hypothesis is essentially the same as Lisa's: the protection is coming from our circumstances rather than our deliberative efforts.
Terrorism is a complex thing. My bet is that as we waged wars in multiple nations, it became more advantageous for fanatics to strike where our military forces were. Without having to gain entry into the country, get past airport security (no matter what odds were), or hijack a plane, terrorists were able to kill over 4,000 Americans in Iraq and nearly 1,500 in Afghanistan. That's almost twice as many as were killed on 9/11.
If I were the leader of a group intent on killing Americans and Westerners in general, I certainly would go down that route rather than hijack planes.
ps there is no proof that it wasn't Lisa's rock. There are some very weird causal relationships in the world. Like shooting wolves causes the Aspen to die off in Wyoming. Or .... overfishing the Salmon in the Pacific changes the mix of trees along the rivers of the BC coast.....
It's pretty clear that it was not the rock. Ecosystems are constantly finding new equilibriums; killing off an herbivore's primary predator should cause a decline in vegetation. That is not surprising, nor is it difficult to prove (you can track all three populations simultaneously). There is also a causal mechanism at work that can explain the effect without the need for new assumptions (Occam's Razor).
The efficacy of the TSA and our security measures, on the other hand, are quite complex and are affected by numerous causes. Changes in travel patterns, other nations' actions, and an enemey's changing strategy all play a big role. You can't ignore all of these and pronounce our security gimmicks (and really, that's what patting down a 6 year-old is) to be so masterfully effective.
Shotglass
Oct 17, 03:59 PM
So why not just use an external HD?
The price. Why burn your library to CDs, you could just use a flash drive. It's the same thing.
In the future, maybe in 5-10 years, I think maybe people will have their entire collections in full-blown 1080p HD. I mean, look at PAL/NTSC. The resolution sucks. HDTV is just worth it.
The price. Why burn your library to CDs, you could just use a flash drive. It's the same thing.
In the future, maybe in 5-10 years, I think maybe people will have their entire collections in full-blown 1080p HD. I mean, look at PAL/NTSC. The resolution sucks. HDTV is just worth it.
flir67
Nov 24, 03:53 PM
just got the macbook with nextday shipping, not bad. 101.00 off
can't beat it if you want it quick.
wish they did the discount to the refurbished units, but you can't win them all.
I can't believe they charge tax on shipping, thats just wrong... shipping should be flat fee after tax........
can't beat it if you want it quick.
wish they did the discount to the refurbished units, but you can't win them all.
I can't believe they charge tax on shipping, thats just wrong... shipping should be flat fee after tax........
124151155
Apr 16, 11:17 PM
I'm aware that these are fake, but I think this is what the next iPhones are going to look like - following the design of the iPad...
Hopefully there will be a 128GB model, I'd definitely be getting one of them =D
Hopefully there will be a 128GB model, I'd definitely be getting one of them =D
mw360
Apr 6, 08:15 AM
That is the very first thing I thought of. I remember that rejection and how ridiculous it was for 2 reasons.
1: She was trying to promote Apple's iAds! How does it hurt Apple?
2: Has Apple seen all the apps that could easily be called "not required" or "redundant"?
She'd be taking money for worthless ad impressions.
1: She was trying to promote Apple's iAds! How does it hurt Apple?
2: Has Apple seen all the apps that could easily be called "not required" or "redundant"?
She'd be taking money for worthless ad impressions.
anotherarunan
Jan 15, 01:14 PM
Pretty much standard procedure from apple. Although i was dissapointed with one thing...NO "ONE MORE THING".....:eek:
apart from that, expect the usual complaints...and take a look at the price of a macbookair with a SSD! :eek:
im happy though, my SR macbook is still top of the range! and justifys me buying it in december :D
apart from that, expect the usual complaints...and take a look at the price of a macbookair with a SSD! :eek:
im happy though, my SR macbook is still top of the range! and justifys me buying it in december :D
calzon65
Jul 21, 02:38 PM
So if another car company was hiding the same problem Toyota had, and Toyota pointed it out, that would be wrong? Why are the other companies denying it?
Apple should simply focus on resolving their own issues. It's not their job to be the "tattle tell" police pointing out problems or potential problems with their competitors. The press and/or markets will uncover issues with Apple competitors.
Apple should simply focus on resolving their own issues. It's not their job to be the "tattle tell" police pointing out problems or potential problems with their competitors. The press and/or markets will uncover issues with Apple competitors.
spillproof
Sep 28, 10:50 PM
omg Steve Jobs please build myHouse.
Does Stevey know feng shui?
Does Stevey know feng shui?
Ommid
Apr 25, 12:21 PM
Would love a larger screen if they can maintain the same body size. I have no interest in something like the giant PDA-sized Android phones.
Maybe the phone is smaller and it makes it look like the screen is bigger, food for thought!
Maybe the phone is smaller and it makes it look like the screen is bigger, food for thought!
OneMike
Apr 8, 02:42 PM
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/4150/photoapr0834035pm.jpg (http://img825.imageshack.us/i/photoapr0834035pm.jpg/)
8GB of ram and a 1TB 2.5 HD
8GB of ram and a 1TB 2.5 HD
jfmartin
Jan 14, 08:50 AM
Found in a prototype Macbook Air used by Steve Jobs
The keynote to unfold like this
Welcome !
iPhone news (100%)
* Sales news - 5 millions sold !
* 8 g version of iPhone price drop - 329$ (50%)
* 16 g version of iPhone - 399$ (50%)
* 1.1.3 firmware as seen on the web in december (100%)
* SDK based apps in developpement will be shown
* The distribution model of iPhone apps (50%)
* through iTunes
* commercial or free
* automatic upgrade of new versions of Apps
* authentication/signature required for secure Apps
iTunes news (100%)
* More DRM-free content to compete with Amazon MP3 (50%)
* No Beatles (100%)
* Movie Rentals
* 2.99$ -3.99$
* 3 days rental period
* from the first play
* all majors (except sony)
* play on all iPod/iPhone/AppleTV/Macs
* Fox to encode version of the movie on the DVD, others studios to do the same
* Movies rental at the same time of the DVD is out to the market
* Movie for sale to see price hikes
* some more differential factors to be announced but still unknown (100%)
* iTunes 7.6 (not 8.0) (100%)
* iPods firmware to see new versions to allow movie rentals (100%)
AppleTV
* the forth leg of apple business, not a hobby anymore (100%)
* AppleTV open plateform with new tool to build software for the AppleTV
* some new tools will be shown
* software for AppleTV available though iTunes (same as iPhone software)
* new software version 2.0
* movie rentals (100%)
* make AppleTV less dependant of iTunes (rent directly from Internet) (80%)
* new options: weather, news, rss reader, web browsing? (30%)
* AppleTV device lineup
* price drop for the current AppleTV (249$) (100%)
* new AppleTV hardware with better sound support, other goodies still unknown (50%)
* 160 gigs (299$) (100%)
* 250 gigs (399$) (50%)
* new Apple Remote (100%)
Now, one more thing...
* New MacBooks pro with new case design (50%)
* New MacBooks with new case design (70%)
* Review of the current state of light portables in the market
* why is not mainstream ? What can we do to fix this ?
* introducing Macbook Air (100%)
* no SSD drive but 1.8 inch drives up to 160 gigs
* no optical drives, sold seperately
* two screen sizes: 13", 11-12"
* aluminum, grey or black
* very thin!!!
* LED display
* i/o ports very special to allow slimmer case design (details unknown)
* 1500$ - 2000$
Thanks to everybody for coming !
1) Announces deal with movie companies for rentals through iTunes. These rentals will last the running time of the movie and cost $20.
2) :apple:TV updated so that it can stream rental movies, but only to analog tvs.
3) "There's Something in the Air" slogan turns out to be Apple branded oxygen dispenser called the iMask
4) 16GB iPhone released for original price ($599)
5) Mac mini discontinued
6) Surprise switch back to Motorola chip (G6) with immediate updates for all laptop & desktop models
7) "One More Thing" is rumored lightweight notebook (also doubles as hot plate)
8) Steve announces the date he will step down as iCEO of Apple
Before I get flamed, think about how little everyone will have to complain about the actual keynote in light of my pessimistic predictions (I don't actually think any of these things will happen).
The keynote to unfold like this
Welcome !
iPhone news (100%)
* Sales news - 5 millions sold !
* 8 g version of iPhone price drop - 329$ (50%)
* 16 g version of iPhone - 399$ (50%)
* 1.1.3 firmware as seen on the web in december (100%)
* SDK based apps in developpement will be shown
* The distribution model of iPhone apps (50%)
* through iTunes
* commercial or free
* automatic upgrade of new versions of Apps
* authentication/signature required for secure Apps
iTunes news (100%)
* More DRM-free content to compete with Amazon MP3 (50%)
* No Beatles (100%)
* Movie Rentals
* 2.99$ -3.99$
* 3 days rental period
* from the first play
* all majors (except sony)
* play on all iPod/iPhone/AppleTV/Macs
* Fox to encode version of the movie on the DVD, others studios to do the same
* Movies rental at the same time of the DVD is out to the market
* Movie for sale to see price hikes
* some more differential factors to be announced but still unknown (100%)
* iTunes 7.6 (not 8.0) (100%)
* iPods firmware to see new versions to allow movie rentals (100%)
AppleTV
* the forth leg of apple business, not a hobby anymore (100%)
* AppleTV open plateform with new tool to build software for the AppleTV
* some new tools will be shown
* software for AppleTV available though iTunes (same as iPhone software)
* new software version 2.0
* movie rentals (100%)
* make AppleTV less dependant of iTunes (rent directly from Internet) (80%)
* new options: weather, news, rss reader, web browsing? (30%)
* AppleTV device lineup
* price drop for the current AppleTV (249$) (100%)
* new AppleTV hardware with better sound support, other goodies still unknown (50%)
* 160 gigs (299$) (100%)
* 250 gigs (399$) (50%)
* new Apple Remote (100%)
Now, one more thing...
* New MacBooks pro with new case design (50%)
* New MacBooks with new case design (70%)
* Review of the current state of light portables in the market
* why is not mainstream ? What can we do to fix this ?
* introducing Macbook Air (100%)
* no SSD drive but 1.8 inch drives up to 160 gigs
* no optical drives, sold seperately
* two screen sizes: 13", 11-12"
* aluminum, grey or black
* very thin!!!
* LED display
* i/o ports very special to allow slimmer case design (details unknown)
* 1500$ - 2000$
Thanks to everybody for coming !
1) Announces deal with movie companies for rentals through iTunes. These rentals will last the running time of the movie and cost $20.
2) :apple:TV updated so that it can stream rental movies, but only to analog tvs.
3) "There's Something in the Air" slogan turns out to be Apple branded oxygen dispenser called the iMask
4) 16GB iPhone released for original price ($599)
5) Mac mini discontinued
6) Surprise switch back to Motorola chip (G6) with immediate updates for all laptop & desktop models
7) "One More Thing" is rumored lightweight notebook (also doubles as hot plate)
8) Steve announces the date he will step down as iCEO of Apple
Before I get flamed, think about how little everyone will have to complain about the actual keynote in light of my pessimistic predictions (I don't actually think any of these things will happen).
Wayfarer
Apr 29, 04:55 PM
I don't like this. Apple, give us an option to choose the iOS slider buttons!
Or I will throw all my apple products out the window. :o:mad::apple:
Or I will throw all my apple products out the window. :o:mad::apple:
Jaymes
Mar 28, 03:16 PM
In other words, it is now more fair to everyone because you just need to be in the App Store rather than having to submit your app specifically to be considered.
In other words, it's less fair to everyone, because you have to fork over $0.30 of every $1.00 you make to Apple in order to be part of the Mac App store just to be in the running for the design award.
It's going to be interesting to see if open-source products win any awards whatsoever this year. In the past, several have brought home awards.
But I digress, as the new Big Brother on the block, I had almost forgot that "Apple knows best".
In other words, it's less fair to everyone, because you have to fork over $0.30 of every $1.00 you make to Apple in order to be part of the Mac App store just to be in the running for the design award.
It's going to be interesting to see if open-source products win any awards whatsoever this year. In the past, several have brought home awards.
But I digress, as the new Big Brother on the block, I had almost forgot that "Apple knows best".
ct2k7
Apr 16, 04:43 PM
Hello everybody :),
I'm the autor of these pictures. I've made this with 3dsmax and Vray render. Photoshop has been just use to create the noise and resize the pictures.
For the perspective problem on the third pics, it's just a lens distortion of my camera.
Stop search, it's just a 3D render exercise.
I'm happy to see that my work unleashed passions but it's A FAKE.
To have more information, see : http://iphone4fake.over-blog.com
Now we have just to wait June to see the real truth.
(Sorry for my english, i'm french ^^ )
Thanks for clearing that up, and I have to say, it is quite nice :)
So, how about those metal ones on the Foxcon(s) (check the label, looks like an "n" has been ripped off)
I'm the autor of these pictures. I've made this with 3dsmax and Vray render. Photoshop has been just use to create the noise and resize the pictures.
For the perspective problem on the third pics, it's just a lens distortion of my camera.
Stop search, it's just a 3D render exercise.
I'm happy to see that my work unleashed passions but it's A FAKE.
To have more information, see : http://iphone4fake.over-blog.com
Now we have just to wait June to see the real truth.
(Sorry for my english, i'm french ^^ )
Thanks for clearing that up, and I have to say, it is quite nice :)
So, how about those metal ones on the Foxcon(s) (check the label, looks like an "n" has been ripped off)
Savor
Mar 17, 07:10 PM
I don't have the same story or friends like you do, so no. In Los Angeles/Orange County, Apple Stores are abundant and within a 20 miles from each other it seems. I do have some people glance at my phone from time to time especially when I am at MetroPCS paying my dad's phone bill. LOL. I don't really care for the attention and keep it incognito most of the time next to my waist.
But your story doesn't surprise especially if you can come from the UK. iPhone did slip out of the TOP 5 in sales last year. I believe the HTC Desire was the most popular one. One of my favorite reviewers from the UK is James Whatley. He reminds me of Brandon Flowers from The Killers. He despises Apple with a passion. He works for Nokia now, so call him one of those diehard Nokians.
I think most of the hatred isn't at the iPhone at all but at Apple. No different than hating the Lakers or Yankees. It is too damn popular and people just end up getting sick of it altogether. Not everybody wants to follow the iSheep. People yearn for their own individuality and don't always want something everybody and their grandma has. Think different, remember? In a few years, people will get sick of Android and WP7 too once they start to decline in popularity. All cycles. There was a time when people laughed at Nintendo and are now hip for the casual masses. Every company has their ups and downs. I see the cell phone market similar to the video game market. You build a platform and try to see to sell it fast to attract software developers. Eventually, it declines and you either rest on your laurels for it to become played out or you take the next jump and hope it doesn't alienate your core audience. Sometimes it does just like it does for many popular rock bands. They change it up too much with their music that people can't accept the change anymore. Or you rest on your laurels and become what Nokia and RIM have been the last couple years.
By 2020, who knows if any of them will still exist or be the most popular OS out there? Every product line can die out eventually. And if they did still exist, it won't be how we see them now.
But your story doesn't surprise especially if you can come from the UK. iPhone did slip out of the TOP 5 in sales last year. I believe the HTC Desire was the most popular one. One of my favorite reviewers from the UK is James Whatley. He reminds me of Brandon Flowers from The Killers. He despises Apple with a passion. He works for Nokia now, so call him one of those diehard Nokians.
I think most of the hatred isn't at the iPhone at all but at Apple. No different than hating the Lakers or Yankees. It is too damn popular and people just end up getting sick of it altogether. Not everybody wants to follow the iSheep. People yearn for their own individuality and don't always want something everybody and their grandma has. Think different, remember? In a few years, people will get sick of Android and WP7 too once they start to decline in popularity. All cycles. There was a time when people laughed at Nintendo and are now hip for the casual masses. Every company has their ups and downs. I see the cell phone market similar to the video game market. You build a platform and try to see to sell it fast to attract software developers. Eventually, it declines and you either rest on your laurels for it to become played out or you take the next jump and hope it doesn't alienate your core audience. Sometimes it does just like it does for many popular rock bands. They change it up too much with their music that people can't accept the change anymore. Or you rest on your laurels and become what Nokia and RIM have been the last couple years.
By 2020, who knows if any of them will still exist or be the most popular OS out there? Every product line can die out eventually. And if they did still exist, it won't be how we see them now.
wlh99
Apr 26, 06:32 PM
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mkrishnan
Sep 8, 06:29 PM
It was the french.
hate the french.
Sweeeeeeet! Thanks for clarifying! :eek: ;) :D
hate the french.
Sweeeeeeet! Thanks for clarifying! :eek: ;) :D
peas
Sep 28, 12:56 PM
sweet, guess i need to read between the lines more.
i just noticed on the box cover it had a monster sticker on it that said
NO UPDATES ON ACADEMIC VERSIONS so i figured this .5 update wouldnt be allowed.
thanks for the heads up
i just noticed on the box cover it had a monster sticker on it that said
NO UPDATES ON ACADEMIC VERSIONS so i figured this .5 update wouldnt be allowed.
thanks for the heads up
dukebound85
Apr 21, 01:13 PM
nice, seems like an offshoot of a rep system but applicable to the topic at hand. will be interesting to see how this turns out
someguy
Sep 12, 07:23 AM
Good catch, although it could mean nothing.
If the iTunes Music Store is going to be called the iTunes Store (iTMS > iTS?) then shouldn't the name iTunes change as well to coincide with the change in available media? :o
If the iTunes Music Store is going to be called the iTunes Store (iTMS > iTS?) then shouldn't the name iTunes change as well to coincide with the change in available media? :o
NamJangNamJa
Nov 16, 04:49 PM
Very interesting! :D
I have a test so tell me what the updates are when I get back. :p
Apple store updates turns out to be "HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE."
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=7B2A6F69&nclm=HolidayMain2006
I have a test so tell me what the updates are when I get back. :p
Apple store updates turns out to be "HOLIDAY GIFT GUIDE."
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=7B2A6F69&nclm=HolidayMain2006
ifjake
Sep 12, 08:19 AM
yeah, the iTunes videos are definitely referencing movies I'd say. I mean we all know it was happening. The surprise is the non-disney titles, since we'd all assumed that that would be all Jobs was able to pull. But then again I don't see why studios would sign up with Amazon video, relatively unproven in digital content delivery, without signing up with iTMS, a very much proven system. I'm sure that's a huge part of Jobs negotiations, not ever once asking for anything exclusive. (That would be what his disney connections might be able to get him). If they're worried about being locked in to the iTMS, then they're free to allow whoever they want to to sell their stuff. The pricing scheme right now as rumored is at least two tiered, one for new releases and one for old, so yes, Mr. Movie Studio, you can make more money off your hot newest thing.
christian_k
Dec 14, 05:23 AM
Not that I believe the rumor, but the phone being LTE only will simply mean that there's one version between the AT&T and verizon phones that supports CDMA and GSM networks. Instead, there will be a CDMA/LTE phone and a GSM 3G phone. Thus, AT&T's LTE network being infantile/non-existent throws a wrench in that.
That being said, I highly doubt an early 2011 verizon iphone. LTE, doubly so. If it's coming for Verizon, it will be unveiled/launch the same time as the AT&T iphone 5.
Many GSM-operators in Europe are building LTE networks and will start commercial LTE-service in 2011. But you will need UMTS (and even GSM) as a fallback for a long time. This means sooner or later an iPhone with LTE, HSDPA,UMTS and probably even GSM will be needed.
But I don't think we will see that in 2011. Maybe in 2012 or 2013.
Christian
That being said, I highly doubt an early 2011 verizon iphone. LTE, doubly so. If it's coming for Verizon, it will be unveiled/launch the same time as the AT&T iphone 5.
Many GSM-operators in Europe are building LTE networks and will start commercial LTE-service in 2011. But you will need UMTS (and even GSM) as a fallback for a long time. This means sooner or later an iPhone with LTE, HSDPA,UMTS and probably even GSM will be needed.
But I don't think we will see that in 2011. Maybe in 2012 or 2013.
Christian
